Bill Thurman birth chart is shown with zodiac signs and aspects. Because the birth time is unknown, Arcadia does not use houses, Rising sign, or angular dominants as the main basis of interpretation.
Bill Thurman's chart rests first on the stable factors: Sun in Scorpio and Moon in Leo. Without a reliable time, signs and aspects are stronger than the Rising sign or houses.
Chart detail:
Mars conjunct Lilith (orb 0.1°) gives a central dynamic in this reading. The orb is extremely tight; this aspect is one of the chart's strongest signals.
In plain terms, this aspect joins action to Lilith's ideal demand: force may seek perfect expression rather than everyday aggression.
The birth time is not known with certainty, so the Rising sign and houses are less reliable. Signs and exact aspects give the safer reading base.
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| Element | Sign | Degrees | Speed |
| Sun | Scorpio | 11° 46' 34" | 1.002 / day |
| Moon | Leo | 27° 05' 55" | 13.807 / day |
| Mercury | Sagittarius | 02° 07' 51" | 0.143 / day |
| Venus | Sagittarius | 13° 49' 55" | 1.224 / day |
| Mars | Capricorn | 12° 29' 58" | 0.747 / day |
| Jupiter | Virgo | 13° 40' 21" | 0.157 / day |
| Saturn | Virgo | 21° 39' 26" | 0.095 / day |
| Uranus | Pisces | 01° 46' 09" R | -0.005 / day |
| Neptune | Leo | 13° 43' 17" | 0.006 / day |
| Pluto | Cancer | 08° 47' 25" R | -0.009 / day |
| Lilith | Capricorn | 12° 21' 57" | 0.111 / day |
| RS | Aquarius | 10° 58' 12" | |
| MH | Scorpio | 15° 53' 41" |
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Signs Mars in Capricorn · Sun in Scorpio
This section gives a concrete reading thread. It highlights the most visible signatures, then the tabs keep each placement separate instead of mixing everything together.
Important: Unknown birth time: the Rising sign, houses, and angular dominants are too time-sensitive to anchor the interpretation. The Moon remains useful, but its exact aspects can shift during the day: tight non-Moon aspects are more reliable when they exist.
Start here: a short reading that shows what hooks, what helps, what pushes back, and where it becomes concrete.
Sun in Scorpio · Moon in Leo
First hook: this is where the chart often becomes recognizable in real life. Sun in Scorpio: identity and direction move through intensity, desire, crisis, secrecy, and invisible power; Moon in Leo: emotional safety looks for presence, pride, creation, and the wish to be seen. Because the birth time is missing, reliable aspects should carry the next step before houses or angles.
Dominants unavailable without reliable birth time
Angular dominants depend on birth time. Without a reliable hour, do not use them as primary evidence.
Harmonious triangle: Mars, Sun, and Jupiter
This is the easiest door into the chart: it shows what tends to cooperate naturally.
This pattern describes what comes more easily. Houses are not used here: unknown time. It connects Mars (action, anger, desire, and courage), Sun (identity, confidence, and direction), and Jupiter (growth, faith, luck, and confidence in the future).
This is the clearest cooperation pattern in the chart: Sun sextile Mars (orb 0.7°), Mars trine Jupiter (orb 1.2°), and Sun sextile Jupiter (orb 1.9°). It shows where functions support each other, recover, or come naturally when used together. Because several planets are connected, the full pattern matters more than one isolated aspect.
Tension circuit: Uranus, Mercury, and Moon
This is the pressure line to read first: it shows where tension repeats in concrete situations.
This pattern shows where pressure builds fastest. Houses are not used here: unknown time. It connects Uranus (change, freedom, rupture, and originality), Mercury (thinking, speech, and decisions), and Moon (emotional needs, instinct, and inner safety).
This is the clearest friction pattern in the chart: Mercury square Uranus (orb 0.4°) and Moon opposite Uranus (orb 4.7°). It shows where pressure, contradiction, or repeated effort concentrates. Because several planets are connected, the full pattern matters more than one isolated aspect.
Houses unavailable without reliable birth time
Houses describe domains of existence, but they depend on birth time. Without a reliable hour, signs and aspects should carry the reading.
Read the full chart-reading method · Detailed placements and aspects are below in the tabs.
Without a reliable birth time, the Sun, Moon, and exact aspects become the reliable base. The Rising sign, houses, and angular dominants need a reliable birth time.
The Moon can change signs during a day. Near a lunar sign change, the Moon sign remains a hypothesis.
Without a reliable hour, exact aspects and reliable repetitions can strongly nuance the starting reading.
Sun in Scorpio remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. The Sun describes identity, ego, father figure, visibility, and direction, with Scorpio style: intensity, desire, crisis, secrecy, and invisible power.
Concretely, the person expresses identity, ego, father figure, recognition, and personal direction through the Scorpio style (intensity, desire, crisis, secrecy, and invisible power). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.
Aspect connected to this placement: Sun square Neptune (orb 1.9°). Aspect effect: creates tension between identity, image, ideal, vagueness, and the need for recognition.
Sun sextile Lilith (orb 0.6°) shows active cooperation between the two planets. The orb is extremely tight; this aspect is one of the chart's strongest signals.
Here, Sun in Scorpio brings identity, ego, father figure, visibility, and direction with Scorpio style (intensity, desire, crisis, secrecy, and invisible power); Lilith in Capricorn brings pure ideal, absolute demand, fascination, and refusal of compromise with Capricorn style (structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction).
Concrete cooperation: identity can cooperate with Lilith's ideal when that demand receives a concrete form. Father-image layer: ego, personal direction, and the father imprint can cooperate with Lilith.
Sun sextile Mars (orb 0.7°) shows active cooperation between the two planets. The orb is extremely tight; this aspect is one of the chart's strongest signals.
Here, Sun in Scorpio brings identity, ego, father figure, visibility, and direction with Scorpio style (intensity, desire, crisis, secrecy, and invisible power); Mars in Capricorn brings action, courage, competition, and effort with Capricorn style (structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction).
Concrete cooperation: identity and action can cooperate in a concrete field. Father-image layer: ego, personal direction, and the father imprint can cooperate with Mars.
Sun sextile Jupiter (orb 1.9°) shows active cooperation between the two planets. The orb is very tight; this describes a stable character pattern more than a passing reaction.
Here, Sun in Scorpio brings identity, ego, father figure, visibility, and direction with Scorpio style (intensity, desire, crisis, secrecy, and invisible power); Jupiter in Virgo brings personal fulfillment, confidence, encouragement, and broader horizons with Virgo style (precision, method, usefulness, and attention to detail).
Concrete cooperation: identity and fulfillment can cooperate when a wide vision receives clear direction. Father-image layer: ego, personal direction, and the father imprint can cooperate with Jupiter.
Sun square Neptune (orb 1.9°) creates concrete friction between the two planets. The orb is very tight; this describes a stable character pattern more than a passing reaction.
Here, Sun in Scorpio brings identity, ego, father figure, visibility, and direction with Scorpio style (intensity, desire, crisis, secrecy, and invisible power); Neptune in Leo brings imagination, image, popularity, collective moods, and inspiration with Leo style (presence, pride, creation, and the wish to be seen).
Concrete friction: this aspect creates tension between identity, image, ideal, vagueness, and the need for recognition.
Sun trine Pluto (orb 3°) shows positive structural ease between the two planets. The orb is tight enough to count in the main reading.
Here, Sun in Scorpio brings identity, ego, father figure, visibility, and direction with Scorpio style (intensity, desire, crisis, secrecy, and invisible power); Pluto in Cancer brings crisis, power, survival, and regeneration with Cancer style (memory, protection, belonging, and family sensitivity).
Concrete support: this aspect gives identity natural support for crossing pressure: the ego can strengthen through crises instead of collapsing. Father-image layer: ego, personal direction, and the father imprint are supported by Pluto.
Moon in Leo remains a useful base without a birth time. The Moon sign is often usable, but near a Moon sign change it remains a hypothesis; the Moon describes personal dream, play, inner child, childhood imprint, mother figure, mother image, optimism, and inner rhythm, with Leo style: presence, pride, creation, and the wish to be seen.
Concretely, the person expresses personal dream, play instinct, inner child, childhood imprint, mother figure, mother image, optimism, and inner rhythm through the Leo style (presence, pride, creation, and the wish to be seen). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.
The Rising sign cannot be determined if the time is not known.
Mercury in Sagittarius remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Mercury describes intellect, language, thought, and technique, with Sagittarius style: expansion, travel, belief, and the search for meaning.
Concretely, the person expresses thinking, speech, learning, technique, and mental strategy through the Sagittarius style (expansion, travel, belief, and the search for meaning). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.
Aspect connected to this placement: Mercury square Uranus (orb 0.4°). Aspect effect: creates tension between thought, nervousness, rupture, and contradiction: the mind can cut too fast, provoke, or refuse the frame.
Mercury square Uranus (orb 0.4°) creates concrete friction between the two planets. The orb is extremely tight; this aspect is one of the chart's strongest signals.
Here, Mercury in Sagittarius brings intellect, language, thought, and technique with Sagittarius style (expansion, travel, belief, and the search for meaning); Uranus in Pisces brings disruption, independence, and change with Pisces style (imagination, faith, compassion, dream, and permeability).
Concrete friction: this aspect creates tension between thought, nervousness, rupture, and contradiction: the mind can cut too fast, provoke, or refuse the frame.
Venus in Sagittarius remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Venus describes desire, taste, relationship, and attraction, with Sagittarius style: expansion, travel, belief, and the search for meaning.
Concretely, the person expresses desire, taste, attraction, pleasure, and love style through the Sagittarius style (expansion, travel, belief, and the search for meaning). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.
Aspect connected to this placement: Venus square Jupiter (orb 0.2°). Aspect effect: creates tension between pleasure, self-worth, desire, excess, and promise: the search for beauty or ease can become too large, too costly, or too indulgent.
Venus trine Neptune (orb 0.1°) shows positive structural ease between the two planets. The orb is extremely tight; this aspect is one of the chart's strongest signals.
Here, Venus in Sagittarius brings desire, taste, relationship, and attraction with Sagittarius style (expansion, travel, belief, and the search for meaning); Neptune in Leo brings imagination, image, popularity, collective moods, and inspiration with Leo style (presence, pride, creation, and the wish to be seen).
Concrete support: this aspect gives positive ease between charm, beauty, imagination, and collective receptivity: attraction can carry a very popular or inspiring image.
Venus square Jupiter (orb 0.2°) creates concrete friction between the two planets. The orb is extremely tight; this aspect is one of the chart's strongest signals.
Here, Venus in Sagittarius brings desire, taste, relationship, and attraction with Sagittarius style (expansion, travel, belief, and the search for meaning); Jupiter in Virgo brings personal fulfillment, confidence, encouragement, and broader horizons with Virgo style (precision, method, usefulness, and attention to detail).
Concrete friction: this aspect creates tension between pleasure, self-worth, desire, excess, and promise: the search for beauty or ease can become too large, too costly, or too indulgent.
Mars in Capricorn remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Mars describes action, courage, competition, and effort, with Capricorn style: structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction.
Concretely, the person expresses action, anger, courage, competition, and effort through the Capricorn style (structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.
Aspect connected to this placement: Mars conjunct Lilith (orb 0.1°). Aspect effect: joins action to Lilith's ideal demand: force may seek perfect expression rather than everyday aggression.
Mars conjunct Lilith (orb 0.1°) brings the two planets out together. The orb is extremely tight; this aspect is one of the chart's strongest signals.
Here, both planets use the same Capricorn style (structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction). Mars in Capricorn brings action, courage, competition, and effort; Lilith in Capricorn brings pure ideal, absolute demand, fascination, and refusal of compromise.
Concrete effect: this aspect joins action to Lilith's ideal demand: force may seek perfect expression rather than everyday aggression.
Same aspect, other side: the full reading is under the other planet, and it also applies to Mars.
Mars trine Jupiter (orb 1.2°) shows positive structural ease between the two planets. The orb is very tight; this describes a stable character pattern more than a passing reaction.
Here, Mars in Capricorn brings action, courage, competition, and effort with Capricorn style (structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction); Jupiter in Virgo brings personal fulfillment, confidence, encouragement, and broader horizons with Virgo style (precision, method, usefulness, and attention to detail).
Concrete support: this aspect gives natural support between effort and confidence: action can open horizons, and fulfillment gives courage more momentum.
Mars opposite Pluto (orb 3.7°) puts the two planets face to face, with visible back-and-forth or tension. The orb is moderate; it stays secondary beside tighter signatures.
Concrete conflict: this aspect puts Mars (action, courage, competition, and effort) opposite Pluto: there is a clear conflict between Mars and pressure, control, crisis, or hidden power.
Jupiter in Virgo remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Jupiter describes personal fulfillment, confidence, encouragement, and broader horizons, with Virgo style: precision, method, usefulness, and attention to detail.
Concretely, the person expresses personal fulfillment, confidence, and opening of horizons through the Virgo style (precision, method, usefulness, and attention to detail). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.
Same aspect, other side: the full reading is under the other planet, and it also applies to Jupiter.
Same aspect, other side: the full reading is under the other planet, and it also applies to Jupiter.
Jupiter trine Lilith (orb 1.3°) shows positive structural ease between the two planets. The orb is very tight; this describes a stable character pattern more than a passing reaction.
Here, Jupiter in Virgo brings personal fulfillment, confidence, encouragement, and broader horizons with Virgo style (precision, method, usefulness, and attention to detail); Lilith in Capricorn brings pure ideal, absolute demand, fascination, and refusal of compromise with Capricorn style (structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction).
Concrete support: Lilith's ideal can support confidence, personal fulfillment, and the sense of a larger life.
Same aspect, other side: the full reading is under the other planet, and it also applies to Jupiter.
Jupiter sextile Pluto (orb 4.9°) shows active cooperation between the two planets. The orb is moderate; it stays secondary beside tighter signatures.
Concrete cooperation: this aspect shows active cooperation between Jupiter (personal fulfillment, confidence, encouragement, and broader horizons) and Pluto: the person can use pressure or difficult situations as a resource.
Saturn in Virgo remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Saturn describes discipline, constraint, endurance, and mastery, with Virgo style: precision, method, usefulness, and attention to detail.
Concretely, the person expresses discipline, limits, duty, fear, and long construction through the Virgo style (precision, method, usefulness, and attention to detail). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.
Uranus in Pisces remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Uranus describes disruption, independence, and change, with Pisces style: imagination, faith, compassion, dream, and permeability.
Concretely, the person expresses freedom, disruption, broken rhythms, and the need for independence through the Pisces style (imagination, faith, compassion, dream, and permeability). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.
Same aspect, other side: the full reading is under the other planet, and it also applies to Uranus.
Neptune in Leo remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Neptune describes imagination, image, popularity, collective moods, and inspiration, with Leo style: presence, pride, creation, and the wish to be seen.
Concretely, the person expresses imagination, image, popularity, and the ability to read collective currents through the Leo style (presence, pride, creation, and the wish to be seen). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.
Same aspect, other side: the full reading is under the other planet, and it also applies to Neptune.
Same aspect, other side: the full reading is under the other planet, and it also applies to Neptune.
Pluto in Cancer remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Pluto describes crisis, power, survival, and regeneration, with Cancer style: memory, protection, belonging, and family sensitivity.
Concretely, the person expresses crisis, power, sexuality, survival, and transformation through the Cancer style (memory, protection, belonging, and family sensitivity). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.
Same aspect, other side: the full reading is under the other planet, and it also applies to Pluto.
Same aspect, other side: the full reading is under the other planet, and it also applies to Pluto.
Same aspect, other side: the full reading is under the other planet, and it also applies to Pluto.
Lilith in Capricorn remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Lilith describes pure ideal, absolute demand, fascination, and refusal of compromise, with Capricorn style: structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction.
Concretely, the person expresses the pure ideal, absolute demand, desire, fascination, and what refuses to become ordinary through the Capricorn style (structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.
Same aspect, other side: the full reading is under the other planet, and it also applies to Lilith.
Same aspect, other side: the full reading is under the other planet, and it also applies to Lilith.
Same aspect, other side: the full reading is under the other planet, and it also applies to Lilith.
