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Birth chart of Bert D. Thorp

Bert D. Thorp birth chart is shown with zodiac signs and aspects. Because the birth time is unknown, Arcadia does not use houses, Rising sign, or angular dominants as the main basis of interpretation.

Bert D. Thorp's chart rests first on the stable factors: Sun in Capricorn and Moon in Libra. Without a reliable time, signs and aspects are stronger than the Rising sign or houses.

Chart detail:

Mercury square Lilith (orb 0.9°) gives a central dynamic in this reading. The orb is extremely tight; this aspect is one of the chart's strongest signals.

In plain terms, this aspect creates tension between thought, speech, obsession, purity demand, and refusal to let go.

The birth time is not known with certainty, so the Rising sign and houses are less reliable. Signs and exact aspects give the safer reading base.

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Displayed: 26/12/1869, 12:00 (unknown hour) at
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13°3'16°14'16°46'20°35'21°22'11°9'21°55'21°30'12°11'9°60'4°49'
Displayed: 26/12/1869, 12:00 (unknown hour) at
(0°00' E, 0°00' N, GMT 0).

Source: Wikipedia

Sun Capricorn
Capricorn

Sun in Capricorn

Moon Libra
Libra

Moon in Libra





The Rising sign cannot be determined if the time is not known.

Element Sign Degrees Speed
Sun Capricorn 04° 49' 23" 1.019 / day
Moon Libra 09° 59' 49" 14.191 / day
Mercury Capricorn 12° 10' 46" 1.615 / day
Venus Aquarius 21° 29' 37" 0.913 / day
Mars Capricorn 21° 55' 11" 0.779 / day
Jupiter Taurus 11° 09' 07" R -0.033 / day
Saturn Sagittarius 21° 21' 30" 0.116 / day
Uranus Cancer 20° 34' 58" R -0.041 / day
Neptune Aries 16° 46' 15" R 0.0 / day
Pluto Taurus 16° 14' 04" R -0.011 / day
Lilith Aries 13° 02' 58" 0.111 / day
RS Aries 05° 28' 14"
MH Capricorn 04° 36' 29"

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Analysis

Astrological birth chart geometry with aspect lines
This visual introduces the aspect section; houses stay out of the main reading when the birth time is unknown.

How to read this chart

This section gives a concrete reading thread. It highlights the most visible signatures, then the tabs keep each placement separate instead of mixing everything together.

Important: Unknown birth time: the Rising sign, houses, and angular dominants are too time-sensitive to anchor the interpretation. The Moon remains useful, but its exact aspects can shift during the day: tight non-Moon aspects are more reliable when they exist.

Reading map

Start here: a short reading that shows what hooks, what helps, what pushes back, and where it becomes concrete.

1. Big Three, Personal Essence

Sun in Capricorn · Moon in Libra

First hook: this is where the chart often becomes recognizable in real life. Sun in Capricorn: identity and direction move through structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction; Moon in Libra: emotional safety looks for relationship, balance, negotiation, and sense of form. Because the birth time is missing, reliable aspects should carry the next step before houses or angles.

2. Dominants (visible planets)

Dominants unavailable without reliable birth time

Angular dominants depend on birth time. Without a reliable hour, do not use them as primary evidence.

3. Important harmonious aspects

Harmonious triangle: Saturn, Venus, and Neptune

This is the easiest door into the chart: it shows what tends to cooperate naturally.

This pattern describes what comes more easily. Houses are not used here: unknown time. It connects Saturn (responsibility, limits, effort, and patience), Venus (attraction, pleasure, taste, and relationships), and Neptune (dreams, ideals, imagination, and confusion).

This is the clearest cooperation pattern in the chart: Venus sextile Saturn (orb 0.1°), Saturn trine Neptune (orb 4.6°), and Venus sextile Neptune (orb 4.7°). It shows where functions support each other, recover, or come naturally when used together. Because several planets are connected, the full pattern matters more than one isolated aspect.

  • Harmony Venus sextile Saturn (orb 0.1°) Sextile: Venus in Aquarius can cooperate with Saturn in Sagittarius in the same concrete choice or situation. For this pair, the aspect lets desire and discipline build something stable.
  • Harmony Saturn trine Neptune (orb 4.6°) Trine: Saturn in Sagittarius can support Neptune in Aries naturally and positively. For this pair, the aspect gives positive ease giving solid form to a dream or collective image.
  • Harmony Venus sextile Neptune (orb 4.7°) Sextile: Venus in Aquarius can cooperate with Neptune in Aries in the same concrete choice or situation. For this pair, the aspect lets Venus and Neptune cooperate when desire receives an artistic, imaginal, or compassionate form.
4. Important tensions

Tension circuit: Mercury, Moon, and Neptune

This is the pressure line to read first: it shows where tension repeats in concrete situations.

This pattern shows where pressure builds fastest. Houses are not used here: unknown time. It connects Mercury (thinking, speech, and decisions), Moon (emotional needs, instinct, and inner safety), and Neptune (dreams, ideals, imagination, and confusion).

This is the clearest friction pattern in the chart: Moon square Mercury (orb 2.2°) and Mercury square Neptune (orb 4.6°). It shows where pressure, contradiction, or repeated effort concentrates. Because several planets are connected, the full pattern matters more than one isolated aspect.

  • Tension Moon square Mercury (orb 2.2°) Square in real life: the friction is between Moon in Libra and Mercury in Capricorn. This can show as blockage, inhibition, overreaction, or repeated conflict between the two planets. For this pair, the aspect creates tension between personal dream and intellect: thought can cut the play instinct, or the dream can overflow rational wording.
  • Tension Mercury square Neptune (orb 4.6°) Square in real life: the friction is between Mercury in Capricorn and Neptune in Aries. This can show as blockage, inhibition, overreaction, or repeated conflict between the two planets. For this pair, the aspect creates tension between analysis, language, confusion, ideal, and collective perception.
5. Important houses

Houses unavailable without reliable birth time

Houses describe domains of existence, but they depend on birth time. Without a reliable hour, signs and aspects should carry the reading.



Sun
Sun in Capricorn Identity, ego, father figure
Moon
Moon in Libra Dream, inner child, mother figure
The three foundations

Without a reliable birth time, the Sun, Moon, and exact aspects become the reliable base. The Rising sign, houses, and angular dominants need a reliable birth time.

The Moon can change signs during a day. Near a lunar sign change, the Moon sign remains a hypothesis.

Without a reliable hour, exact aspects and reliable repetitions can strongly nuance the starting reading.

Bert D. Thorp has Sun in Capricorn

How to read this placement

Sun in Capricorn remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. The Sun describes identity, ego, father figure, visibility, and direction, with Capricorn style: structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction.

More about this placement

Concretely, the person expresses identity, ego, father figure, recognition, and personal direction through the Capricorn style (structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.

With the Sun in Capricorn, identity forms through structure, responsibility, achievement, and long-term construction. The person often needs to prove competence through time, work, discipline, and concrete results. This placement can give ambition, patience, strategic realism, and respect for what has been earned. It is not only coldness; it is the need to build a life that can stand pressure. When heavy, the person may identify too much with duty, status, control, or the fear of failure.


Bert D. Thorp has Moon in Libra

How to read this placement

Moon in Libra remains a useful base without a birth time. The Moon sign is often usable, but near a Moon sign change it remains a hypothesis; the Moon describes personal dream, play, inner child, childhood imprint, mother figure, mother image, optimism, and inner rhythm, with Libra style: relationship, balance, negotiation, and sense of form.

More about this placement

Concretely, the person expresses personal dream, play instinct, inner child, childhood imprint, mother figure, mother image, optimism, and inner rhythm through the Libra style (relationship, balance, negotiation, and sense of form). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.

Aspect connected to this placement: Moon opposite Lilith (orb 3°). Aspect effect: opposes personal dream, childhood image, and mother image to ideal demand, fascination, or refusal to depend.

With the Moon in Libra, the inner child looks for harmony, fairness, beauty, and relationships where both sides are considered. The personal dream often passes through love, art, form, diplomacy, and the desire to live in a world that feels balanced rather than brutal. This Moon can give tact, charm, mediation, aesthetic sensitivity, and a gift for sensing what is out of proportion in a room. The mother image or childhood imprint may be linked to peacekeeping, elegance, comparison, or the need to be agreeable. Under stress, it can avoid conflict, over-adapt, or wait too long before choosing.

    Time-sensitive Moon aspect: Moon opposite Lilith (orb 3°). Because the birth time is unknown, the Moon's exact degree can shift during the day. This interpretation stays provisional and gains weight only if the aspect remains tight across the possible birth window or repeats another clear signature.

    Here, Moon in Libra brings personal dream, play, inner child, childhood imprint, mother figure, mother image, optimism, and inner rhythm with Libra style (relationship, balance, negotiation, and sense of form); Lilith in Aries brings pure ideal, absolute demand, fascination, and refusal of compromise with Aries style (initiative, speed, confrontation, and direct action).

    Concrete conflict: this aspect opposes personal dream, childhood image, and mother image to ideal demand, fascination, or refusal to depend.

    Time-sensitive Moon aspect: Moon square Mercury (orb 2.2°). Because the birth time is unknown, the Moon's exact degree can shift during the day. This interpretation stays provisional and gains weight only if the aspect remains tight across the possible birth window or repeats another clear signature.

    Here, Moon in Libra brings personal dream, play, inner child, childhood imprint, mother figure, mother image, optimism, and inner rhythm with Libra style (relationship, balance, negotiation, and sense of form); Mercury in Capricorn brings intellect, language, thought, and technique with Capricorn style (structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction).

    Concrete friction: this aspect creates tension between personal dream and intellect: thought can cut the play instinct, or the dream can overflow rational wording.



The Rising sign cannot be determined if the time is not known.


Mercury
Mercury Intellect, language, technique
Venus
Venus Desire, taste, attraction
Mars
Mars Action, courage, competition
Jupiter
Jupiter Fulfillment, confidence, horizons

Bert D. Thorp has Mercury in Capricorn

How to read this placement

Mercury in Capricorn remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Mercury describes intellect, language, thought, and technique, with Capricorn style: structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction.

More about this placement

Concretely, the person expresses thinking, speech, learning, technique, and mental strategy through the Capricorn style (structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.

Aspect connected to this placement: Mercury square Lilith (orb 0.9°). Aspect effect: creates tension between thought, speech, obsession, purity demand, and refusal to let go.

With Mercury in Capricorn, the intellect is structured, strategic, economical, and oriented toward results. The person often communicates carefully, respects evidence, and prefers words that can survive contact with reality. This placement can give planning ability, business sense, administrative intelligence, and patient problem-solving. It is not necessarily cold; it wants speech to have weight. Under stress, it can become pessimistic, rigid, overly cautious, or silent because saying the wrong thing feels costly.

    Mercury trine Jupiter (orb 1°) shows positive structural ease between the two planets. The orb is very tight; this describes a stable character pattern more than a passing reaction.

    Here, Mercury in Capricorn brings intellect, language, thought, and technique with Capricorn style (structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction); Jupiter in Taurus brings personal fulfillment, confidence, encouragement, and broader horizons with Taurus style (nature, good food, physical sensuality, roots, resources, and perseverance).

    Concrete support: this aspect gives structural ease linking intellectual precision with a larger vision: teaching, storytelling, or making an idea feel bigger can come naturally.

    Mercury square Lilith (orb 0.9°) creates concrete friction between the two planets. The orb is extremely tight; this aspect is one of the chart's strongest signals.

    Here, Mercury in Capricorn brings intellect, language, thought, and technique with Capricorn style (structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction); Lilith in Aries brings pure ideal, absolute demand, fascination, and refusal of compromise with Aries style (initiative, speed, confrontation, and direct action).

    Concrete friction: this aspect creates tension between thought, speech, obsession, purity demand, and refusal to let go.

    Same aspect, other side: the full reading is under the other planet, and it also applies to Mercury.

    Open the full aspect reading under Moon

    Mercury trine Pluto (orb 4°) shows positive structural ease between the two planets. The orb is moderate; it stays secondary beside tighter signatures.

    Concrete support: this aspect gives intellect ease handling difficult situations: thought can stay lucid under pressure and understand what others avoid.

    Mercury square Neptune (orb 4.6°) creates concrete friction between the two planets. The orb is moderate; it stays secondary beside tighter signatures.

    Concrete friction: this aspect creates tension between analysis, language, confusion, ideal, and collective perception.



Bert D. Thorp has Venus in Aquarius

How to read this placement

Venus in Aquarius remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Venus describes desire, taste, relationship, and attraction, with Aquarius style: independence, networks, distance, and collective change.

More about this placement

Concretely, the person expresses desire, taste, attraction, pleasure, and love style through the Aquarius style (independence, networks, distance, and collective change). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.

Aspect connected to this placement: Venus sextile Saturn (orb 0.1°). Aspect effect: lets desire and discipline build something stable.

With Venus in Aquarius, affection needs friendship, freedom, originality, and respect for difference. The person often loves people who bring a new perspective, a shared ideal, or a sense of being outside ordinary scripts. Taste can be modern, eccentric, conceptual, futuristic, or socially unconventional. This placement often prefers a bond that leaves room to breathe. Under stress, it can detach, intellectualize feelings, resist ordinary intimacy, or seem absent just when emotional warmth is needed.

    Venus sextile Saturn (orb 0.1°) shows active cooperation between the two planets. The orb is extremely tight; this aspect is one of the chart's strongest signals.

    Here, Venus in Aquarius brings desire, taste, relationship, and attraction with Aquarius style (independence, networks, distance, and collective change); Saturn in Sagittarius brings discipline, constraint, endurance, and mastery with Sagittarius style (expansion, travel, belief, and the search for meaning).

    Concrete cooperation: can desire and discipline build something stable.

    Venus sextile Neptune (orb 4.7°) shows active cooperation between the two planets. The orb is moderate; it stays secondary beside tighter signatures.

    Concrete cooperation: Venus and Neptune can cooperate when desire receives an artistic, imaginal, or compassionate form.

    Venus square Pluto (orb 5.3°) creates concrete friction between the two planets. The orb is moderate; it stays secondary beside tighter signatures.

    Concrete friction: this aspect creates compulsive friction around desire, jealousy, possession, sexual power, and the fear of being controlled or devalued: attraction can become a test, a fixation, a power struggle, or a refusal to be vulnerable.



Bert D. Thorp has Mars in Capricorn

How to read this placement

Mars in Capricorn remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Mars describes action, courage, competition, and effort, with Capricorn style: structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction.

More about this placement

Concretely, the person expresses action, anger, courage, competition, and effort through the Capricorn style (structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.

Aspect connected to this placement: Mars opposite Uranus (orb 1.3°). Aspect effect: opposes direct action to the need for rupture, independence, or shock.

With Mars in Capricorn, action becomes disciplined, strategic, ambitious, and aware of consequences. The person often acts best when there is a goal, a structure, a hierarchy, or a long effort that rewards endurance. This Mars can be excellent for leadership, work, self-control, planning, and turning pressure into achievement. Under stress, it can become cold, controlling, harsh with weakness, or so focused on results that desire loses warmth.

    Mars opposite Uranus (orb 1.3°) puts the two planets face to face, with visible back-and-forth or tension. The orb is very tight; this describes a stable character pattern more than a passing reaction.

    Here, Mars in Capricorn brings action, courage, competition, and effort with Capricorn style (structure, ambition, responsibility, and long construction); Uranus in Cancer brings disruption, independence, and change with Cancer style (memory, protection, belonging, and family sensitivity).

    Concrete conflict: this aspect opposes direct action to the need for rupture, independence, or shock.

    Mars trine Pluto (orb 5.7°) shows positive structural ease between the two planets. The orb is moderate; it stays secondary beside tighter signatures.

    Concrete support: this aspect gives natural support for action under pressure: Mars can thrive in danger, competition, or crisis instead of freezing.

    Mars square Neptune (orb 5.2°) creates concrete friction between the two planets. The orb is moderate; it stays secondary beside tighter signatures.

    Concrete friction: this aspect creates tension between action, the wish to act, image, vagueness, ideal, and scattered energy.



Bert D. Thorp has Jupiter in Taurus

How to read this placement

Jupiter in Taurus remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Jupiter describes personal fulfillment, confidence, encouragement, and broader horizons, with Taurus style: nature, good food, physical sensuality, roots, resources, and perseverance.

More about this placement

Concretely, the person expresses personal fulfillment, confidence, and opening of horizons through the Taurus style (nature, good food, physical sensuality, roots, resources, and perseverance). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.

With Jupiter in Taurus, the person finds fulfillment through stability, comfort, the body, money, nature, and the slow enjoyment of life. They often feel more confident when resources are secure and pleasure is allowed to become simple and concrete. This Jupiter can bring generosity, sensual appreciation, patience, and talent for building value over time. Under stress, it can become lazy, possessive, overly attached to comfort, or resistant to necessary change.

    Same aspect, other side: the full reading is under the other planet, and it also applies to Jupiter.

    Open the full aspect reading under Mercury

    Jupiter conjunct Pluto (orb 5.1°) brings the two planets out together. The orb is moderate; it stays secondary beside tighter signatures.

    Here, both planets use the same Taurus style (nature, good food, physical sensuality, roots, resources, and perseverance). Jupiter in Taurus brings personal fulfillment, confidence, encouragement, and broader horizons; Pluto in Taurus brings crisis, power, survival, and regeneration.

    Concrete effect: this aspect joins Jupiter (personal fulfillment, confidence, encouragement, and broader horizons) to Pluto's crisis instinct: Jupiter can express through pressure, control, sexuality, danger, or difficult situations.




Saturn
Saturn Discipline, limits, structure
Uranus
Uranus Freedom, rupture, invention
Neptune
Neptune Image, popularity, inspiration
Pluto
Pluto Crisis, power, regeneration
Lilith
Lilith Ideal, fascination, refusal

Bert D. Thorp has Saturn in Sagittarius

How to read this placement

Saturn in Sagittarius remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Saturn describes discipline, constraint, endurance, and mastery, with Sagittarius style: expansion, travel, belief, and the search for meaning.

More about this placement

Concretely, the person expresses discipline, limits, duty, fear, and long construction through the Sagittarius style (expansion, travel, belief, and the search for meaning). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.

With Saturn in Sagittarius, discipline is applied to belief, travel, teaching, truth, and the wider view of life. The person may need to test ideas through real experience instead of repeating slogans or inherited opinions. This can give serious study, moral consistency, and the ability to turn a worldview into a practical path. Under stress, it can become dogmatism, fear of being wrong, blocked optimism, or a tendency to make freedom feel like a duty.


Bert D. Thorp has Uranus in Cancer

How to read this placement

Uranus in Cancer remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Uranus describes disruption, independence, and change, with Cancer style: memory, protection, belonging, and family sensitivity.

More about this placement

Concretely, the person expresses freedom, disruption, broken rhythms, and the need for independence through the Cancer style (memory, protection, belonging, and family sensitivity). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.

With Uranus in Cancer, independence expresses itself through family, home, memory, belonging, and emotional security. The person may break inherited family patterns, create a nontraditional home, or protect loved ones in unusual ways. This placement can give emotional originality, instinctive care for outsiders, and the courage to define family differently. Under stress, it can bring domestic instability, sudden withdrawals, or a nervous relationship to attachment and vulnerability.


Bert D. Thorp has Neptune in Aries

How to read this placement

Neptune in Aries remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Neptune describes imagination, image, popularity, collective moods, and inspiration, with Aries style: initiative, speed, confrontation, and direct action.

More about this placement

Concretely, the person expresses imagination, image, popularity, and the ability to read collective currents through the Aries style (initiative, speed, confrontation, and direct action). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.

With Neptune in Aries, the dream function takes the color of action, courage, revolt, and heroic initiative. The person may sense collective moods through conflict, urgency, or the need to start something before others understand it. This placement can give inspiring boldness, a mythic warrior image, and the ability to make people believe in a new beginning. Under stress, it can confuse impulse with vision, turn anger into a spiritual mission, or chase impossible battles.


Bert D. Thorp has Pluto in Taurus

How to read this placement

Pluto in Taurus remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Pluto describes crisis, power, survival, and regeneration, with Taurus style: nature, good food, physical sensuality, roots, resources, and perseverance.

More about this placement

Concretely, the person expresses crisis, power, sexuality, survival, and transformation through the Taurus style (nature, good food, physical sensuality, roots, resources, and perseverance). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.

With Pluto in Taurus, power concentrates around money, body, possession, stability, pleasure, and personal value. The person may meet pressure through attachment: what they own, what they refuse to lose, what makes them feel safe, and what they believe they are worth. This placement can give material endurance, deep sensual force, and the ability to rebuild security from almost nothing. Under stress, it can become possessiveness, fear of loss, financial obsession, or resistance until a material crisis forces the issue.


Bert D. Thorp has Lilith in Aries

How to read this placement

Lilith in Aries remains a reliable combination even without a birth time. Lilith describes pure ideal, absolute demand, fascination, and refusal of compromise, with Aries style: initiative, speed, confrontation, and direct action.

More about this placement

Concretely, the person expresses the pure ideal, absolute demand, desire, fascination, and what refuses to become ordinary through the Aries style (initiative, speed, confrontation, and direct action). Exact aspects and repeated patterns indicate whether this theme becomes central.

With Black Moon Lilith in Aries, the non-negotiable point concerns action, courage, desire, and the right to exist without asking permission. The person may reject weakness, passivity, or any situation where their instinct has to be softened too much. This placement can give fierce autonomy, raw courage, and a refusal to let fear decide. Under stress, it can become rage, impatience, provocative independence, or a need to prove strength even when no battle is necessary.